Part two of the ego discussion turns to when confidence curdles into a problem. Mary Simon opens with a story about two rival attorneys sniping at each other in a pretrial conference until the judge shut it down, refusing to referee an "ego measuring contest." Liz Lenivy points out that judges punish cockiness the way juries punish a lack of confidence and shares a case where a co-counsel's cocky, nonchalant attitude pushed a client to seek her out instead as proof that ego can quietly damage client trust. The episode closes on humility, with Mary recalling a moment her dad, who built their firm from nothing, brushed off her attempt to celebrate his success: "the firm is just the people."
Episode: 1015
On Ego: Why Female Attorneys Need It Part 2
August 12, 2026
Part two of the ego discussion turns to when confidence curdles into a problem. Mary Simon opens with a story about two rival attorneys sniping at each other in a pretrial conference until the judge shut it down, refusing to referee an "ego measuring contest." Liz Lenivy points out that judges punish cockiness the way juries punish a lack of confidence and shares a case where a co-counsel's cocky, nonchalant attitude pushed a client to seek her out instead as proof that ego can quietly damage client trust. The episode closes on humility, with Mary recalling a moment her dad, who built their firm from nothing, brushed off her attempt to celebrate his success: "the firm is just the people."
Episode: 1014
On Ego: Why Female Attorneys Need It Part 1
August 12, 2026
The hosts unpack what ego really means in the legal profession and why female attorneys especially need a healthy dose of it. They trace the word's negative connotations alongside its ...
Episode: 1013
Trauma-Informed Lawyering: Caring for Clients and Yourself Part 2
August 12, 2026
In this episode, the conversation gets candid about the toll this work takes on lawyers themselves. Sara Marler of Marler Law Partners challenges the myth of "compassion fatigue," explaining that ...
Episode: 1012
Trauma-Informed Lawyering: Caring for Clients and Yourself Part 1
August 12, 2026
An unconventional addition to the staff at a female-led family law firm has revolutionized how the firm operates as well as renamed its approach to lawyering. In this episode, Sara ...
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